So why am I still up I ask myself? well an unrelated topic, I have been subjected to this scam that apparently originated in Nigeria and now the gory email details have arrived in Canada for some unknown reason. Not that I played into some devilish hands of sorts, just I have been researching and found many interesting things relating to this very subject that sends me emails at least twice a day, annoying slightltly...unrelated a little I did say....
As with the reading I have been doing lately from JK and plus the watchings from the marvellous Internet we have, of his past video talks and converse with friends. I recently watched a video on fragmentation which I know is a little behind what we have been discussing, however I can not get past the idea that we are all categorising ourselves into little fragments! Its such great concept and I have been exploring it a great deal. Every time I draft out who I am to someone for the first time the more prevalent these fragments become. I am this, I was this, I do so and so and the list builds. Until my awareness of what I am saying kicks in and says HEY! stop fragmenting yourself....this has happened a few time lately since I have been introduced to the JK words. Not a bad thing at all, possibly a really great thing.
I'm aware that I have this fragmentation occurring and accept that is what my experience has had to build upon. But today for some reason I was curious if our fragmentation was in built from birth as such with certain conditioning levels that everyone has? I am asking are we as a human race, conditioning ourselves with some certain basic protocols, from a certain point of time. Such as instilling manners, right and wrong, installing the fragments so our awareness has a bench mark to work upon.? does that make a little sense? today I was fascinated, well I am always with this! and it is why, no matter who replies, someone says "Bless You" when a sneeze has taken place? is this a conditioning from childhood, religion or habit? But I find a massive awareness when I feel compelled to say it and I cant understand why??? Can this be a conditioning or is it apart of our fragmentation that has been conditioned with the side of manners and curtousey?
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That’s funny. I probably watched the same video last night. It sounds like it was The Transformation of Man? Laureen sent the link. The whole question of conditioning came up in part 2 of that conversation between JK, David Bohm, and Dr. Sheldrake. I got the impression that conditioning is the repeated behavior that we develop in response to fear, to the need for psychological security that arises out of the way we approach relationship from a place of isolation, from the desire to maintain and build up our own power and pleasure.
ReplyDeleteOur behavior becomes mechanical because we are afraid of change; our isolation builds our world of power but it is also the basis of our fear. To live without fear we have to fully understand relationship, which means going into the question ourselves and observing our reactions in relationship with another.
We could say that fragmentation is the response of thought to fear. That fragmentation is the isolation. I thing JK is more interested in the psychological basis of things like fragmentation than the genetic basis, and especially to show how the psychological determines the biological or what we are calling the genetic. It’s a really interesting post and I would suggest that every sees the video at some point.
Yes its the same video post I have been watching I think. They have helped build upon the readings for myself and understand it a little more, whatever they may be discussing. The site if anyone else wants to look is;
ReplyDeletehttp://www.jkrishnamurti.org/
Thankyou for the response Robert..great words, I totally understand how our mechanical self can be afraid of change, fear of something outside of the fragment whatever it may be.